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Posted Today, 06:00

Zak, on 26 Jun 2014 - 05:35, said:

Since the chat in thread is as lovely as it can get, let's keep on discussin the Bf 109 issues right here.

So. Can you guys list the things that you think are modeled wrong in Bf 109 (f-4 or g-2, any)? Rudder sensitivity? I've heard of that, gave a brief comment, and we'll talk about it more.

Then, what else?

And before we begin, let me make the rudder issue clear.



As I said, we acknowledge that current implementation of rudder control is questionable. You as experienced virtual pilots feel that rudder doesn't work correctly - and we agree with you on that.



We know where this peculiar sensation of Bf 109 is located and it doesn't fit the expectations (same thing as you experience, isn't it?). But IL2BOS is a simulator modeled painstakingly and with greatest attention to the most trustworthy tool that we have - maths. Current version of Bf 109 (as well as any other plane in the project) is a purely mathematical model based on all avalilable data on the original aircraft. And after the entire FM development procedure (2 months or smth, can't remember for sure now) we came to what we have now. And we CAN and we WANT to revise the FM for BF 109 because of the questionable rudder performance.

But being a flight sim (not an WT, WOWP grade arcade game) IL2BOS does not allow us to switch smth off, or to grab a "rudder hypersensitivity" slider and move it to minimum. The only way to fix it is to go thru the entire Fm production process. We plan to do that. Obviously, it has to wait until Fw 190 and He 111 are finished and released to early access, and lacking game modes added too. After that we will have resources to revise Bf 109 FM. You know, it is like developing a real plane back then in 1940s - we roll out a prototype, it fails our expectations and we have to put it apart all over again to find what the problem is.



That's official. Pretty much everything I can tell about the topic. And honestly, I think it gives you all a certain answer.

Love it how you can kick it around from a sideways tail slide with the rudder. Great climb, too.

- each fuel tank can now be set in flames individually

- stats has been fixed again, we expect some improvement

- the tail gear at Pe-2 was too weak, we fixed it

- shadows dropped by clouds are less contrast now so it's easier to see small elements of terrain and distinguish the plane shadow clearer

I thought you might like to see La-5 in MP, so it is going to be available in multiplayer for the entire weekend.

The same happened with ED when they were doing the Mustang. Yo-Yo had it all modelled out mathematically but when the plane was tested by an actual Mustang pilot he came back with a whole pile of changes which needed to be implemented to make it really feel like a Mustang. And that's a plane which is really well documented technically from a testing and design perspective.

777 made it quite clear SP is not a priority for them in a recent newsletter. I didn't give a crap when I read it because I had already given up on this mediocre sim. Every time I play the sim I come away thinking... meh. Absolutely nothing grabs me as "wow".

- The FMs are not pushing any boundaries.
- The graphics are good but nothing that hasn't been done before.
- The AI is same old poor dross as in RoF.
- The SP content is low and is not going to improve and only selected people will get the mission editor.

It is essentially air quake in white.

Have you ever seen a sub forum here on SimHQ that was so dead for a sim this close to release? This is a clue right there. The fact it is in beta/alpha does not matter, at this stage in the game the FMs, AI and content are pretty much finalised.

Atualmente o La5 pega fogo (bug?) mais fácil que bomber japonês e não apresenta vantagens significativas sobre o LaGG-3 ou o YaK-1.

Decolar é muito fácil, basta manter o avião alinhado com o leme que sobe sozinho, sem tocar o manche.
Já pousar parece que tem um "script": se tocar com o avião inclinado para cima ou para baixo acima de
um certo ângulo ele quica uns 3 metros de altura...