"Pistolero" MCG X MoongoosT50

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"Pistolero" MCG X MoongoosT50

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Two handsome pieces! But VKB, definitely, is more beautiful!
The grips are completely different in all aspects:
The dimensions (VKB is larger),
The number of buttons (the VKB has much more),
The stroke of the buttons (VKB has more),
Analog axes (here too everything is clear),
Programming capabilities (VKB - then!)
Movimento do grip (Extensão de 20 cm X 7,5 cm)
Mechanisms:

VKB Gunfighter Pro has a range of 1.5 times the handle travel range.
I would even say that it's too big for VKB, it's too small for VirPil.
Perhaps this is due to the fact that on the VirPil I have an extension cable only 75 mm.
O "feel". :P

VirPil .
Adjusting the load is carried out in the widest range.
He flew a lot on the Yak-52, also attracted to the configuration of the former Su-24 pilot with a touch on the Yak-52 and the current pilot of the Airbus 320 series, which also has a large raid on the Yak-18T.

As a result, the following was obtained: the free center, the red spring on the pitch - is tightly tightened, the black spring roll is fully tightened.
A load approximately corresponding to the flight to the Yak-52, Yak-18T at a speed of 250 km / h.

I measured the received loads.

In pitch: a deviation of 30% - 1.5 kg, 90% - 3.8 kg,
In roll:- 30%- 0.8 kg, 90% - 1.9 kg.
Despite the free center CAM, the load is well perceptible near the center.


VKB.
I came to the disappointing conclusion that VKB Gunfighter Pro should exist only as non PRO (witout extension).

The loading system, despite the dampers, is not designed for such a total length of the device (extension cord + handle).
Dampers practically do not change the situation.
Putting CAM # 30 spring first - not that. Has returned to #10 CAM.
On both axes there are two springs # 50 each!
Measured the load in the geometric center of the MCG handle :
at a deviation from the center by about 30% - 300 g,
with a deviation of 90% - 1.8 kg.

Near the center there is no load at all, that is, near the center the handle is openly hanging out.
A bit sad, but as it is.
Essa comparação de "feel" do peso ao movimentar esta meia boca, deveria ser com duas seções de 7,5cm mais uma de 5cm no MongoosT50 para dar a mesma alavanca do Gunfighter MFG (20cm).

Mas uma coisa que reclamam da CAM da VKB é que do meio do curso para o final a força necessária aumenta consideravelmente, no VPC é mais linear.

A VKB alega que foi a feito desse jeito a pedido de certos "virpilots" que queriam sentir os controles ficando "pesados". :P

Como entre 3 "virpilots" a pelo menos 4 opniões diferentes, já sabe. :rofl:
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A VKB disse que a força necessária na sua CAM segue este gráfico.

We always stated that the Gunfigher (and before them Mamba) use a nonlinear "quadratic" loading system. Here is the loading schedule:

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We have been doing research for a long time and carefully, we have chosen a nonlinear load specially, since the pilot receives information not only on the position of the stick, but also on the effort on it.
Also, the soft behavior of the stick in the center makes control in the near-center zone more convenient.
I'm not saying that this statement is categorical, and who does not agree with him, he does not understand anything in the joysticks
But still most of the users of our products (and this is not one thousand people) preferred nonlinear loading and not "extreme" efforts on the grip.
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